Because we are so excited to show our work in the coming weeks, the 2009-2010 BAX AIRs (luciana achugar, Abigail Browde, Victoria Libertore, and Jennie MaryTai Liu) have interviewed each other about their processes, their lives, and their work.
This is part four, of a four part series.
VICTORIA LIBERTORE INTERVIEWS LUCIANA ACHUGAR
luciana’s piece PURO DESEO will be performed at The Kitchen on Thursday – Saturday, April 29 – May 1, 8p & Sunday, May 2, 5pm. Click here for tickets.
What did you want to be as a little girl?
I only remember at times wanting to have a really large family with tons of kids running around, and at times dreaming of being someone meaningful for the betterment of humanity, I think I wanted to be a politician or a bioligist, someone that did something to change the world, as I was very aware of the injustices going on in the world.
If you could go back and do anything different in your career or a specific piece, would you?
If I look back at my work I always see faults, things that aren’t worked through deeply enough or compositional “errors” that make a piece a bit too long or that seem immature from where I am standing now. However, I wouldn’t say that I would change anything. Maybe a little editing here and there but not much else…That is not to say that I think what I’ve done in the past has been brilliant in any way but more because I feel like I did what I had to do or I could at that time, and that the way I worked than and what happened then is how I am here now doing what I am doing in the way that I am doing it. Especially because I very much think of the lineage of one piece to the next and make work always in dialogue and reacting to what I did before.
On the other hand, what I would change from the past is to have learned to not arrive at the end of my process always so last minute, running against the clock to put on the show. I wish I had learned early on to organize time better to feel more ready when I am finally showing work to an audience. But, who knows… maybe the fact that I am like that makes it into the work and gives it an edge that is more raw and seemingly undone, which I like… I am not so into overly designing things, it can be overkill…
What do you enjoy most about the creative process?
I used to enjoy most about the process the playful moments of discovery where one tries to be as open and available to inspiration and creativity as possible without worrying yet about the outcome. I still enjoy that part very much but I have come to enjoy even more the moments that are unexpected in which connections appear between ideas and movements and structures that I have been exploring; when all of a sudden something seems to click and I know exactly where a certain moment of the piece needs to happen and I finally understand why I couldn’t get rid of that idea, even though it didn’t seem to fit in before. Or the moment in which I realize that in fact my unconscious mind is more clear about what the work is than I was ever aware of.
What do you enjoy least about the creative process?
The way in which I torture myself and beat myself up over not knowing how to approach my rehearsals at times; or the fact that I have a hard time enjoying myself cause I’m so concerned with making something “good”, and therefore I spent so much time paralized not knowing what to do next cause nothing seems good enough, interesting enough, or worth anyones time. The fact that I sometimes dread going to rehearsal and just wish I could escape myself, cause every time I am in rehearsal I have to face my “demons”.
Anything about this new piece you’re working on that you want to share?
Besides the description that can be read in the website… I guess I would like to share that this piece is for me a work where I am trying to define an aesthetic of movement as a choreographer, yet I am working with a non-dancer, so it has become a very interesting contradiction that I have set for myself… In some ways I think that the combination of showing the work danced by me and by someone that has no formal training in dance is the most untainted way to show what my ideas about the body and moving are all about. Because it’s so hard for a dancer to remove their training from their body, and I am interested in exploring something about the body that is “darker” or “mysterious”, that comes from the hormonal, glandular, visceral part of ourselves.
This question is totally stolen from Julia Cameron’s “The Artist Way.” If you weren’t doing what you’re doing, list five other careers you’d be interested in.
Dancer. (I know that it seems like the same, but if I hadn’t chosen to be a choreographer I would’ve loved to continue to dance professionally and interpret other artist’s work).
Politics. (Not as a politician but to work in some organization that works towards the kind of change that I wanna see in society)
Philosophy. (Being an academic and studying aesthetics, art theory and philosophy)
Filmmaker.
Homemaker. (TO have the chance to spend more time in the small things in life that matter to me a lot, friends, family, having a beautiful home, cooking amazing dinners for family and friends, plus the fantasy of also having time to read and watch all the shows I want to).
What advice would the 80-year old Luciana give to the Luciana of 2010?
You should have taken better care of yourself then! Don’t keep putting yoga classes, eating well and getting enough sleep off for later. Don’t neglect your friendships, and your partner, your career will keep going. Trust yourself, you know you have an insight into the body and a special sensitivity and you owe it to yourself and the world to put it out there as much as you can, don’t second guess yourself. Don’t put off reading novels now cause you think you’ll have time to catch up when you’re older… you’ll continue to be busy, do what you need to do now! Enjoy yourself and your loved ones more!!!